Interview with Cedric Dassulle – Talamasca
Nextparties.com proudly presents huge interview with one of the greatest psytrance artists ever. Enjoy…
This year, we were honoured to see you twice in Serbia. First time in January, at Kolos, Belgrade, then at Dobrača Open air festival. Tell us your impressions about those events.
Well, I played in Serbia for many years now, so I will not speak about this two parties only, but more in general. From my first party in Belgrade, so many years ago in Barutana club, until this last forest party in Dobrača, I’ve been in a lot of good parties, a lot of good memories, and a lot of nice people that I have met! But to be honest, and despite the fact that I really love Belgrade parties, I was super happy to play, finally, outdoor again in Serbia! It reminded me of the old liquid and solid festivals 😉
Are there any special things about Serbia that you remember?
Ahahaha…. well…. Serbia is one of the countries in the world where I feel VERY welcome! People are happy that I come, and they show it to me… so… even if I made a mistake, but even if I do, then, what’s the difference? I feel welcome there. 😀
Did you now that Serbia and France established diplomatic relations 134 years ago, and that we have a Monument of gratitude to France in Belgrade central Kalemegdan park.
I will not faint to be aware of this… I simply didn’t know…. I think that unfortunately, Serbia and all other Balkan countries are more famous for other things. Fortunately for me, I had the chance to visit and to realize by my own eyes how cool Serbian people are! But, as my best friend is half Slovenian, I am a bit aware of your history…
Do you think that psytrance scene in Serbia (and worldwide) is still underground and why?
It’s easy… “PSYTRANCE” as we know it, was, is, and WILL REMAIN UNDERGROUND. Maybe for people who listen to trance for many years, some psytrance has become what THEY call commercial, but it is far from it. For “normal” people, even the most accessible psytrance track is more noise than music. Beside this, in the last few years, music has become darker. I understand people who like hard and dark. I was myself a gabber DJ in 1992, I was playing at 180 bpm with 3 vinyls together, and this is how I became “famous” in Paris as a DJ long time before Talamasca. So I understand hard music and why people like it, but there is a huge difference between the BIG NAMES of hard core music, who are good in what they do and who make music with sounds specially designed for this BPM, while “dark trance” is mainly made by people who are the opposite of “musicians”. Most of the time they don’t even know what a “note” means, and they make this with headphones on a laptop, and with this new genre, believe me, it will stay underground forever. But anyway, psytrance as a music, dark or melodic, is still too fast to be one day mainstream.
It looks like that fans accept your new album „Psychedelic Trance“ (Dacru records,2013) very good. Its definitely something different than your previous work. Lot of inspiring melodies, positive vibrations…Tell us few words about making of album and where did you find ideas and ispiration.
I personally didn’t like the previous album “Make some noise” (2011), and there are few reasons for this. Don’t missunderstand me, “musically”, “Make some noise” was much better than any album before it, I mean by the complexity of the harmonies like in tracks „Back to bach” or “Epic transition”. But, the biggest problem of that album, is that I made it in my previous home, where I built a studio in basement and the acoustic was super bad, so in my studio, the sound was amazing, but when I played the tracks in parties, I realised there was not enough bass. So it took me months to try to approach a good mix, then I believed I found a new killer bassline sound and reopened few tracks to change their bassline sounds against this new one. Unfortunatly, it was not as good as I believed it was, so all together, the sound production of “Make some noise” was under my expectations, while the production of “Psychedelic trance”, made in my new house and my new studio with proper acoustics, sounds much better!!! And I have to admit that for once, and trust me it s not so often, I am quite proud of my own album. I am not the kind of artist who loves his own music so much, because I know I can always do better, and that is exactly why I’m still here!!!
Your favorite track on album?
So hard to choose! “Melodically” speaking, I love “Winter tale” because it sounds like an easy melody, but trust me, it took me days to find it exactly like I wanted it. Now, “dancefloor” speaking, the “Nightmare” remix we did with XSI is just a bomb! “Psychedelic trance” track is special to me because the introduction melody is completely inspired from the guy who is responsible for me loving electronic music – Jean Michel Jarre! Listen to his “RENDEZ-VOUS 2” and you’ll understand what I mean…
This year it looks like that you are travelling more then ever. Europe, Africa, Asia, South America… Do you ever get tired?.
Well, you are wrong here 😉 … I used to travel much more in the past, in those 20 years of djing, but now I have a family that I love, a wife and two kids, and I cannot do big tours anymore with one month in a country and another two weeks in another country. So now I fly “for the party”, which looks like I’m travelling much more. As an example, let’s take my last event in Serbia. That was a Tuesday evening. The Sunday, I was playing in Fuji mountain in Japan, and I was playing there in Tokyo also the 2nd of may – the Thursday. So the Monday evening, I took a flight from Japan to Korea, and waited. Then Korea to Austria, and waited. Then Austria to Belgrade, and drove to Kragujevac area (Dobrača). Arrived there at 10pm if I remember well, played at 6, left the party at 9 to reach Belgrade airport to fly to Moscow, then waited some more. Then flew to Tokyo, where I arrived on Thursday around 1pm, and I was playing at 3am, before to fly back to France urgently because I was playing the Saturday in Portugal…
So: was it fun? NO! Was I tired : I WAS DEAD!!! Would I do it again? YES!!! Because this is my job, I dedicated more than the half of my life to this job, and I will NEVER BE TIRED of it! So trust me, you will see me again many years in Serbia, and believe me, I will make your kids dance! 😉
As a youngster, you were into metal, rock, and classical music. But after all, your final choice was electronic sound. Why?
First of all, because I fell in LOVE with it ! But if you want to analyze the “why”, then… I believe it comes from the fact that as you mentioned, I have some classical music background, which doesn’t mean I was listening classical music in my “walkman” (lol)!!! I was listening heavy metal since I was 10, unfortunately for my mother I would say ;). But as I was playing the piano for few years, I was interested in classical music and as my mother was listening some, I have a good knowledge of it. And what I loved in classical music : THERE WERE NO LYRICS!
I never enjoyed understanding lyrics of songs. When I was kid, I loved few English songs because I didn’t (fortunately !!!!!!!) understand the meanings!!! But in French I did, and I felt it was a shame, because for me, and since im a kid, MUSIC is made to let your mind travel!!! Music make you use your imagination to visualize things. If you have a guy telling you what to think, and most of the time speaking really bullshit, for me it s a waste of the music. It s like to give caviar to pigs. When I was listening heavy metal, I was mostly enjoying the instrumental tracks or the guitar solos of each songs, and when I discovered electronic music, woah, I knew that will be it!
You’ve been on stage for more than 20 years. Can you remember worst/best parts and moments of your career?
Fortunately, I have much more good memories than bad ones! Actually, all the bad ones, with the time passing, became anecdotes and funny memories. Maybe I will write a book one day about them all. 😉 And about the good ones, as you said, 20 years of career, almost 17 years travelling all over the world, I have people that I consider as real friends in mostly every country I played. How can I choose one or even 3 memories here??? 😀 But as I guess you need something more interesting as an answer, I will just say the 5 first ones that comes to mind NOW :
1 – The first time I played in the REX club in Paris in 1993. It was the club where Laurent Garnier was resident DJ also and I was sooooo proud 😀
2 – A party on a cruise from Israel to Cyprus….wowowoooo…..impossible to give any details here except that it was a CRAZYYYYY PARTY 😉
3 – First time I played in front of more than 20.000 people in Brazil……. wow… I was half scared half impatient to blast!!!!
4 – JAPAAAAAAAAAN!!!! My first time in Japan was very important in my life. I discovered “another planet” there… Everything is different.. Even the body language.. Everything… But Japanese people are so nice, and parties are great!!!
5 – Party in the Desert in Israel …. I’m not the kind of guy who believes in “energy” and all the hippy vocabulary…. but there… woah….. you feel very little… and to make a party in the middle of nowhere was really an experiment that I would advice to everybody… specially in Israel, who is, in a way, the motherland of trance music. I have often talked with Serbian people who always complain about the reputation of Serbia in the world, compare to how nice the Serbian people are. Well, it’s exactly the same with Israel. I was scared first time I’ve been there, I had CNN pictures in mind (tanks, Intifada…) but when I arrived there and discovered “Partyland”, it completely changed my mind about Israel, and exactly the same happened with Serbia. People should travel more…
When you’re not playing at parties and festivals, how you spend your free time (family, hobbies..)?
Well, as I mentioned, I fly now mostly during weekends and try to be home every week from Monday to Friday. I have a wife I love for 15 years, and two kids, 11 years old boy and a 5 and half (the half is VERY important ! 😉 years old girl. So between them and my studio, I NEED to be home as often as possible. For those who believe that DJ is a cool and easy life, which is, in a way, true, they have to know that there is, as always, another side of the mirror. The more successful you are, the less “home” you are, the less “social” you will become, as you will miss EVERY weekends meetings with your friends. Many of my DJ friends gave up djing for this, despite the fact they were so talented. It is a fun life when you are 20, it’s becoming harder when you are around 30, and at 40, well, only the strongest can survive! 😀 looool ….
Regarding my hobbies, well, as most of my fans know, I am also an illusionist and specialized in mentalism, and for the last ten years, hypnotism too. This is my real hobby beside music, and beside this, I cook quite well. I began to post my plates on instagram.. ahahah…. well… my wife does 😉 So if you want to see what I’m cooking, follow me on instagram!! (talamasca_official) ahaha… this is good promotion 😉
And final question. If you can choose 5 artists to play with, at biggest event in your life (for example in front of full Stade de France), who would be your choice?
Woah, nice question!!!! I love it!!!!! Let me think, first of all, OF COURSE, I will choose JEAN MICHEL JARRE!!!!!! No question about it. Then, I would choose Madonna, because, well, she is Madonna, and if I don’t choose her, my wife will kill me. So, under the pressure, I would take the queen of pop :D. Of course I would invite PINK FLOYD, as I consider them as fathers of real psychedelic music, with the track called “One of these days”, that my mother was listening when she was pregnant with me, and that I loved to listen during all my life ! For the two last, I would choose Deadmau5, because I love his music, and Daft punk, because – they are Daft punk 😀